Rail travelcard zones

[C Coward]

I've just noticed that a couple of one day One Railway London travel cards
my other 1/2 bought in advance, to use tomorrow, say R1256 in the zones
bit. What does this mean? I hope it means we can use all of zones 1-6, as
if not she's been sold the wrong thing.

TIA

[Mike]

Post by C Coward
I've just noticed that a couple of one day One Railway London travel cards
my other 1/2 bought in advance, to use tomorrow, say R1256 in the zones
bit. What does this mean? I hope it means we can use all of zones 1-6, as
if not she's been sold the wrong thing.
TIA

Yes you can use them in all the zones 1 through 6.

[Colin Rosenstiel]

Post by Mike

Post by C Coward
I've just noticed that a couple of one day One Railway London
travel cards my other 1/2 bought in advance, to use tomorrow, say
R1256 in the zones bit. What does this mean? I hope it means we can
use all of zones 1-6, as if not she's been sold the wrong thing.
TIA

Yes you can use them in all the zones 1 through 6.

They haven't got room for R123456 that's all. Watch out for Oyster being
cheaper in future though (too late now I know). The cheap One ticket to
London is £13, or £18 as a one day travelcard. A paper travelcard bought
in London is £4.90 and Oyster at least 50p (I think) cheaper through the
capping system.

[Paul Oter]

Post by Colin Rosenstiel

Post by Mike

Post by C Coward
I've just noticed that a couple of one day One Railway London
travel cards my other 1/2 bought in advance, to use tomorrow, say
R1256 in the zones bit. What does this mean? I hope it means we can
use all of zones 1-6, as if not she's been sold the wrong thing.
TIA

Yes you can use them in all the zones 1 through 6.

They haven't got room for R123456 that's all. Watch out for Oyster being
cheaper in future though (too late now I know). The cheap One ticket to
London is £13, or £18 as a one day travelcard.

For those who haven't visited the station recently, One Railway has
completely inundated Cambridge station with posters advertising these
cheap tickets to London. I counted no less than 36 posters on the
station the other evening.

I wonder whether WAGN/FCC would be able to give similar prominence to
their cheap ticket offers? (The station is operated by One Railway).

I wonder how many people buy these tickets and then catch a train to
King's Cross? I would imagine most casual visitors wouldn't understand
the implications of buying a "One One Day Travelcard"...

Post by Colin Rosenstiel
A paper travelcard bought
in London is £4.90

A one-day off-peak travelcard valid in zones 1-6 is £6.30.
For zones 1-2 only the cost is £4.90.

Post by Colin Rosenstiel
Oyster at least 50p (I think) cheaper through the
capping system.

Yes, using Oyster pay-as-you-go you will never pay more than 50p less
than the equivalent Day Travelcard price for all your Oyster single
journeys in Zones 1-6 or TFL will refund the difference. For zones 1-2
after 0930 Mon-Fri and weekends the cap is £4.40. For Zones 1-6 during
those times the cap is £5.80. If you travel before 0930 Mon-Fri the
cap is higher.

It's important to bear in mind that Oyster pay-as-you-go is valid on
very few national rail services.

PaulO

[Roland Perry]

Post by Paul Oter
For those who haven't visited the station recently, One Railway has
completely inundated Cambridge station with posters advertising these
cheap tickets to London.
I wonder how many people buy these tickets and then catch a train to
King's Cross? I would imagine most casual visitors wouldn't understand
the implications of buying a "One One Day Travelcard"...

"buying oneself one One One Day Travelcard", shirley?

And if it was an isolated occasion it would be possible to brandish
"one's one One One Day Travelcard."

[On 1st April there's the somewhat simpler possibility of buying "one's
first First One Day Travelcard.]

[Tony Raven]

Post by Roland Perry
And if it was an isolated occasion it would be possible to brandish
"one's one One One Day Travelcard."

If it was a competition prize has one won one's one One One Day Travelcard?

[Roland Perry]

Post by Tony Raven
If it was a competition prize has one won one's one One One Day Travelcard?

Sure, and having entered the competition, there are two possible
outcomes:

1. One won one's one One One Day Travelcard or
2. Won naught.

And categorising the outcomes:

Won: 1. One won one's one One One Day Travelcard and
Lost: 2. Won naught.

[Colin Rosenstiel]

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Tony Raven
If it was a competition prize has one won one's one One One Day Travelcard?

Sure, and having entered the competition, there are two possible
1. One won one's one One One Day Travelcard or
2. Won naught.
Won: 1. One won one's one One One Day Travelcard and
Lost: 2. Won naught.

Hilarious! Should I table this thread at the County's Rail Strategy
Group meeting next Monday?

[Roland Perry]

Post by Colin Rosenstiel

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Tony Raven
If it was a competition prize has one won one's one One One Day Travelcard?

Sure, and having entered the competition, there are two possible
1. One won one's one One One Day Travelcard or
2. Won naught.
Won: 1. One won one's one One One Day Travelcard and
Lost: 2. Won naught.

Hilarious! Should I table this thread at the County's Rail Strategy
Group meeting next Monday?

One would be flattered. (That's me, not the ToC).

[S.E.]

Post by Roland Perry
"buying oneself one One One Day Travelcard", shirley?
And if it was an isolated occasion it would be possible to brandish
"one's one One One Day Travelcard."
[On 1st April there's the somewhat simpler possibility of buying "one's
first First One Day Travelcard.]

Ah but is that a First (class) first First One Day Travelcard. or a
standard (class) first First One Day Travelcard.

[R.C. Payne]

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Paul Oter
For those who haven't visited the station recently, One Railway has
completely inundated Cambridge station with posters advertising these
cheap tickets to London.
I wonder how many people buy these tickets and then catch a train to
King's Cross? I would imagine most casual visitors wouldn't understand
the implications of buying a "One One Day Travelcard"...

"buying oneself one One One Day Travelcard", shirley?
And if it was an isolated occasion it would be possible to brandish
"one's one One One Day Travelcard."
[On 1st April there's the somewhat simpler possibility of buying "one's
first First One Day Travelcard.]

The first one day travel card will probably get you to London first. So
one could by a one one day travel card, or could travel in first class
comfort and get to London first with a first first one day travel card.
I suppose it might come down to whether the one train is leaving
first, or the first train is the one that leaves sooner.

Robin

[Colin Rosenstiel]

Post by Paul Oter

A paper travelcard bought in London is £4.90

A one-day off-peak travelcard valid in zones 1-6 is £6.30.
For zones 1-2 only the cost is £4.90.

My point being that very few people visiting London from Cambridge will
go beyond Zone 2. On the visit I'm just ending I didn't and I stayed
overnight in Putney (and I made a total of 6 pay-as-you-go journeys over
two days).

Post by Paul Oter

Oyster at least 50p (I think) cheaper through the
capping system.

Yes, using Oyster pay-as-you-go you will never pay more than 50p less
than the equivalent Day Travelcard price for all your Oyster single
journeys in Zones 1-6 or TFL will refund the difference. For zones 1-2
after 0930 Mon-Fri and weekends the cap is £4.40. For Zones 1-6 during
those times the cap is £5.80. If you travel before 0930 Mon-Fri the
cap is higher.

But Zone 1 single tube fares are now £3 cash and £1.50 on Oyster. If you
make only one tube journey each way within Zone 1 it is now cheaper to
use Oyster pay-as-you-go instead of a Travelcard, even with a railcard
discount.

Post by Paul Oter
It's important to bear in mind that Oyster pay-as-you-go is valid on
very few national rail services.

Yes, a right pain.

[Theo Markettos]

Post by Paul Oter
I wonder how many people buy these tickets and then catch a train to
King's Cross? I would imagine most casual visitors wouldn't understand
the implications of buying a "One One Day Travelcard"...

They're advertised in the paper as a "'one' Day Travelcard". So would that be
a 'one' Day Travelcard or a One Day Travelcard, sir?

Theo

[Sarah Brown]

Post by C Coward
I've just noticed that a couple of one day One Railway London travel cards
my other 1/2 bought in advance, to use tomorrow, say R1256 in the zones
bit. What does this mean?

It means that the ticket can be used as an all-zones travelcard within zones
1-6 (but not the bits of the Metropolitan Line which are outside Zone 6), as
well as allowing one journey from Cambridge to London and one journey back.

[C Coward]

Post by Sarah Brown
It means that the ticket can be used as an all-zones travelcard within zones
1-6 (but not the bits of the Metropolitan Line which are outside Zone 6), as
well as allowing one journey from Cambridge to London and one journey back.

Which is what I was expecting, but why is it R1256 & not R123456 then? Is
it that you can get a Zone 1&2, or a Zones 1-6, but not a Zones 1-4, so
having the 34 in there would be redundant?

[Elan]

"C Coward" wrote...

Post by C Coward
Which is what I was expecting, but why is it R1256 & not R123456 then? Is
it that you can get a Zone 1&2, or a Zones 1-6, but not a Zones 1-4, so
having the 34 in there would be redundant?

It means that when the tube arrives to the edge of Zone 2/3 you need to
disembark and walk to Zone 5 where you are allowed to re-board.

;-)

[Clive D. W. Feather]

Post by C Coward
I've just noticed that a couple of one day One Railway London travel cards
my other 1/2 bought in advance, to use tomorrow, say R1256 in the zones
bit. What does this mean? I hope it means we can use all of zones 1-6, as
if not she's been sold the wrong thing.

Firstly, yes it's safe to use in all 6 zones (but not zones A to D).

Secondly, "R" means a multiple-use ticket while "U" means a single-use
ticket (so a ticket to "any station in zone 2, going via zone 1 if
necessary" would have a destination of "U12", while a travelcard for use
in zones 1 and 2 would have "R12").

Thirdly, this notation is used partly to make it easier for grippers
[guards, conductors, and on-train inspectors] to identify the
destination at a glance, and partly as an anti-counterfeiting measure.
There are a number of places where non-obvious notation is used because
a significant number of ticket forgers don't notice them. For example,
notice that the date will say "MCH" rather than "MAR".

[Roland Perry]

Post by Clive D. W. Feather
There are a number of places where non-obvious notation is used because
a significant number of ticket forgers don't notice them. For example,
notice that the date will say "MCH" rather than "MAR".

Chalk up another victory for the "confuse a foreign tourist" brigade.